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Flexible New Deal and the New Deal
This page is dedicated to the Flexible New Deal and the alleged successes and issues with the old New Deal.
Words from the Prime Minister
With New Deal Scandals views in italic!
The New Deal was both a statement of our values and a key part of our economic strategy. Introduced after two decades in which child poverty more than doubled; the number of people on Incapacity Benefit had risen by one and a half million; and more than 80,000 young people had been on unemployment benefit for more than a year.
Our values? Child Poverty has doubled but what really has the New Deal scheme alone done to tackle that? The 80,000 long term unemployed young people seems so long in the past as it is now.
It said that we valued every person in our society and that our economy in turn needed them to be active if we were all to be successful. Bringing in the New Deal was hard work. Many opposed it then – and still oppose it – believing that the answer to people being out of work is to neglect them.
What society is that then? You mean Parliament? Ah yes! Pay the overpaid Members of Parliament scandalous expense claims… that way no one would ever undermine you and resign from your cabinet. Oh wait.. they still did. You then gave big pay deals to buy them people out.
I can promise you that New Deal Scandal, Ipswich Unemployed Action and all the other groups that oppose New Deal now and back then, are not wanting to neglect anyone. In fact, the absolute opposite… we want people to be treated well, get proper training and for the companies delivering such “services” not to defraud the taxpayer. That has to be the most concise list leaving out all but just 3 New Deal issues that New Deal Complaints, New Deal Scandal, Ipswich Unemployed Action and all the other groups have been highlighting. If you can’t sort out just 3 of these issues then you have no hope or chance of it being a “world-class” scheme.
The rights and responsibilities agenda that the New Deal brought in was challenging to many while the changes in the way our systems worked meant upheaval for many staff.
Very much so. Ipswich Unemployed Acti0n reported that one participant was effectively exited before he even got on to the programme. This was nice for YMCA Training as they got paid for it – about 30 minutes work maximum.
But it was all worth it. Over its 10 years, more than 1.8 million people have been helped into jobs by the New Deals. An extra 300,000 lone parents in work has helped us lift 600,000 children out of poverty, the numbers on Incapacity Benefit are falling, while long-term claimant unemployment for young people has been virtually eliminated.
The problem with those jobs is they aren’t sustainable and a lot are zero-hour contract jobs.
Virtually eliminated? Above you state 80,000 young people were not only unemployed but long term unemployed before the New Deal. All the New Deal did was take the unemployed young people and change their status from “unemployed” although in receipt of Jobseekers Allowance to “in training”. Some people on work placement even became known as “employed”.
In fact, the young person unemployment count has rapidly increased although I see why those on NDYP (New Deal for Young People) are stuck on New Deal more often then the older age ranges doing ND25+ IAP (Intensive Activity Period). It can only be realised that this move was down to lowering the young people unemployment count.
Now as we look ahead we need a reformed New Deal to help us face the challenges of the next decades. In the old days the problem may have been unemployment, but in the next decades it will be employability. If in the old days lack of jobs demanded priority action, in the new world it is lack of skills. And that means that our whole approach to welfare must move on.
Whats this I hear about millions of new jobs having been created? Besides this is all bullshit. Employability and Unemployment always went hand in hand. Employers always look for those highly skilled for their requirements although the ratio of qualifications to experience isn’t a direct link factor to whether your skills are great or not.
Did I hear lack of skills? As opposed to lack of experience? Will Jobseekers now get the chance to actually better themselves? Instead of doing free labour and sitting round in a classroom doing 30 hours of intensive job search.
In future the best welfare will no longer be the benefits you have today but the skills you gain for tomorrow. Rights and responsibilities will remain the cornerstone of our philosophy. But we reject the failed approach of simply cutting benefits and hoping for the best, and instead draw on the best practice from what has worked in Britain and overseas.
You rejected the approach of cutting benefits? Whats with all these new sanctions? Jobseekers randomly having their claims terminated or not being paid? Those disabled and ill are being forced to claim Jobseekers at a lower amount: is that not a benefit cut?
We will combine tough sanctions for those who refuse to work or train with better and more targeted support for those most in need to give them the skills and advice they need to get back onto the jobs ladder. And for those on incapacity benefits, we will focus on capability and what people can do, not on disability and what they cannot do.
Ironically blog viewers, I was typing the responses before reading the actual speech in full and surprise surprise… “tough sanctions”… The problem is refusing to (do Community Service like) work (for benefit no wages) and refusing (no actual real) training (consisting of sitting in a room all day every day – apart from weekends) is all in your rights. These aren’t actual real jobs or real training that people are refusing to do. I mean, its common sense, who would refuse that?
At the end of January a major conference will bring together government, employers and our private and voluntary sector partners to set out the next steps in this agenda The work we are doing with employers through Local Employment Partnerships; the introduction of the flexible New Deal to create a welfare system more personalised to specific needs and capabilities of individuals; and the use of the private and voluntary sector to deliver help to those who need more help, will see the next decade of welfare policy and the New Deal help deliver lower unemployment and inactivity and better economic prospects, not just for some, but for all.
Workfare? Well… lets hope you enjoy the few remaining months left in office. Flexible New Deal will still be a one size fit all system, after all New Deal promised (and still does today) to do just that but never happened in all its 10 years or so it ran for. Flexible New Deal provision has been left wide open as to what the providers can actually offer clients on a post code lottery style system.
Gordon is a Moron
Prime Minister (if he still is)
Flexible New Deal
New Deal has been the most successful innovation in the history of the UK labour market. During the last 10 years, the New Deals have helped more than 1.8 million people into work. Over the last decade, the labour market has changed beyond recognition: the New Deals are now 10 years old and so they too must evolve to ensure we are ready for the challenges of the next decade.
On 2 January 2008, the Government announced exciting new plans for transforming Britain’s labour market and this includes the introduction of a more Flexible New Deal.
This is a fundamental part of the Government’s wider welfare reform and will underpin the principles of working towards eradicating child poverty by 2020.
The Flexible New Deal will replace the current New Deal 18 – 24 and 25+ and Employment Zones programmes. It will provide an inspiring opportunity for Prime Contractor organisations from the private, public and third sectors to work together in partnership to deliver this new programme across all Jobcentre Plus districts from Autumn 2009.
The five core principles of the Flexible New Deal
- A stronger framework of rights and responsibilities to move benefit customers from being passive recipients to active jobseekers.
- A personalised and responsive approach to individual customer needs which will provide tailored employment and skills support to meet the needs of both customers and local employers.
- A partnership approach with public, private and third sector organisations working together to maximise innovation, leading to more and better outcomes.
- Devolving and empowering communities for future sustainable employment which will be at the heart of neighbourhood renewal.
- Not just jobs, but jobs that pay and offer opportunities for progression, with an emphasis on sustaining and progressing in work to ensure all customers who need help to develop their skills have access to the relevant pre-employment and in-work training.

Monday September 7th 2009 at 11:28 am
I am coming into the sector to work for a company delivering new deal.
did not know how corrupt some providers were. does anyone know a good provider?
Monday September 7th 2009 at 11:28 am
Nope…
Thursday September 10th 2009 at 12:43 pm
there are none, they are all crooked and should be locked up!
Thursday September 10th 2009 at 2:33 pm
I can understand why people feel this way. I myself have signed forms while on Employment zone for Pertemps which are worth close to £200 to them for doing nothing. I would never ever work for them but there is a New company dealing with some of the new FND contracts and I would like to work for them.
I really do want to help people get into work. Not only that but I want to help people with long term problems such as drink or drug issues see the way to employment.
It is a fact that some people do not want to work but I cannot help that.
I think the current new deal is a cop-out. No-one should work for less thatn mimimum wage. Hopefully FND will help to end this but details of it are still sketchy.
I may, In a year or so become cynical but for now I would only like to think of the good I can do.
Thursday September 10th 2009 at 4:23 pm
Hi Andy it is great to hear you want to work for this new company doing Flexible New Deal helping others with problems back in to employment.
Jobcentre Plus should be employing people like you who are actually passionate about helping people back in to employment rather than the majority who despise those clients (“customers”) they work with on a daily basis.
The problem with these new schemes its all about reading inbetween the lines:
* They all sound generally good ideas
* Sometimes reading the laws, the laws have been written to include greater powers than in the (marketing) summary given. Welfare Reform Bill raises this concern for example.
* Equality Vs Individual Needs (are opposites)
* Inconsistancies with speeches and released plans
* Most are under secret until the end and too much minimums as opposed to maximums
The points I would say New Deal Vs Flexible New Deal
New Deal VSO/IAP etc. has no requirement (even though promoted) to stick participants on work placements or any form of training (actually are internally known as “employment programmes” not training programmes). All providers must offer at least one days intensive job search activity a week. 5 days (30 hours) is atleast one days job search there is no maximum specified.
Flexible New Deal (if my memory serves me correctly): providers must give participants 4 weeks of work placement. Providers are then rather free what to choose to do for the remainder of the course.
Thursday September 10th 2009 at 2:48 pm
A lot of the providers are under immense pressure from the government to deliver on targets. I have heard through the grapevine that a new American-Dutch company setting up business in Britain is tryin to get 70% of people through their doors into sustainable employment with a 90% of these retaining their jobs for over 13 Weeks.
This is when a lot of these companies get paid.
The worrying thing is people with long-term needs whom might not get employed while they are with their provider will get neglected.
Why would providers finance someone with no prospect of getting a job?
This is, I think a major flaw with the Flexible New Deal. Maybe the government shouldn’t put such stringent targets onto companies like this.
If I am lucky enough to work for my chosen provider I will focus on people with long term needs to make sure people are not pushed to the back of the queue because they are deemed as “No Hopers” I was one of them myself once and the support I received was shockingly Bad
Thursday September 10th 2009 at 4:28 pm
I agree thanks for the comment
Actual sustainability = 1 year +
Current sustainability = 13 weeks+
New sustainability = 26 weeks+
If 70% of people got jobs and 90% of that had the job for over 13 weeks, then 10% of that 70% can’t have sustainable jobs so what are they on about lol
Thursday September 24th 2009 at 2:49 pm
I been to my inyerview and haven’t heard a jot. Could it be that I was a little surprised when they asked me if I could hit targets? I think youre right. All they are bothered about is money. Now instead of delivering FND I Will be a participant. In the current job market most of these companies will fail. In 26 weeks of Employment Zone I have applied for roughly 25 jobs a week and only have had 1 Interview. I was clearly the best candidate for some of the other interviewees came out with comments like “I’d take my client out for a DRINK!!” Shamelessly whoringly himself to the Interview panel. I feel used for the funding. I hope FND is a complete disaster. I hope Gordon Brown gets his ass kicked at the el;ection and someone gets some ideas that work
Thursday September 24th 2009 at 2:56 pm
I can’t see Flexible New Deal being a great success.
I can guarantee that Gordon is a Moron won’t be Prime Minister again.
If you or anyone have any ideas of how to improve Flexible New Deal or of a different scheme entirely, feel free to post ideas at http://feedback.flexiblenewdeal.me.uk/forum/welfare-reform-proposals (you will need to register (cuts down spam))
Thursday September 24th 2009 at 3:17 pm
If the tories do come to power(It’ll take something monumentally catastrophic for it not to happen) then Flexible New Deal only has less than 12 months anyway as Cameron sees it as a waste of money. The stats show that New Deal costs the taxpayer over £180000 for every job outcome. The government wants to reduice the costs of this. If that isn’t a waste then I don’t know what is
Thursday September 24th 2009 at 3:19 pm
interesting, I read that Con-servatives wanted a more severe workfare system. This is why I don’t trust them.
Thursday September 24th 2009 at 5:38 pm
i cannot see how it can get any tougher,the private sector as they acclaim is already full and placements cannot be found,new deal often are not the only ones there are also ex offenders,disability groups,and the volunteers.
the worry is that what we could see is are the insurance sector involved but premiums would be high for unemployment particularly for low skill low paid jobs which are very volatile in sacking people. or the possibility worse is that people are on the street without access benefits and left to charities to feed after a period of time with jungle style camps such as at calais springing up in the uk for the unemployed this has happened in the united states and the conservatives have studied their system closely.
Friday September 25th 2009 at 10:09 am
if the tories do scrap new deal will all the new deal leaflets etc be sent for recycling into toilet rolls for use in goverment buildings?
Saturday November 21st 2009 at 2:24 am
i haven’t had the pleasure of this flexible new deal (yet),the only flexibility i have experienced so far is for bigots’ to flexibly bend the law and to mistreat the unemployed as they want.